I did find my scope a tad loose the other day, so I yurned back the off-set mount a bit, and that solved the issue. There isnt much difference between the two rifles today. This is the directory to whats out there. Thanks for any insight you can provide. I was thinking that if I wanted to lower the elevation, wouldnt I just have to apply a similar pressure on the sight?, seeing as it has that same pressure otherwise. Ive seen one persons new 392LE destroyed by what Crosman deems Scope too heavy. The scope was mounted on the factory cut dovetail, and after a couple weeks, the whole barrel and breech broke off at the solder joint. The only upside is that it is a very accurate rifle. The barrel is finished in black. Looks like I have to use those with whatever mount and scope I go with. I hope owners of these guns will comment on how much they enjoy them. The groups are nice and tight, just in the wrong place. ql. I found the crosman phone number in the benjamin manual i got, you may want to look over that to see if it helps you in any way. Thanks for your valuable advice. Thanks again. I can use the 272s on the little womans rifle!!! I cant wait for ur next blog, i find myself sitting on the edge of my seat through the long nights, avidly awaiting ur next post well, maybe i dont go that far, but i do enjoy ur priceless information on bb guns, pellet rifles, bbs, pellets, etc. But It cannot be too loud. The higher powered scopes just give you more sighting precision at longer range. Based on your answers I will know what to do. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. Mopst Beeman pellets are made by H&N a fine German pellet maker. Open the pump lever as far as it will go. This blog is nearly 4 years old and there are almost 800 individual posts like this one. Sure you can use your scopes! So much trial and error!!! Thanks alot thats a relief i thought it was broken their for a second thanks bb. BB, For some reason, this wont publish my comments. If so, its your best bet. The Benjamin 392 Bolt Action Air Rifle hits the target very hard. As others have said, the cheek piece on the stock puts your line of site way too high to shoot comfortably. Very very accurate with open sights. I uninstalled it and tilted it back a bit and installed it. Note that you should always keep asingle pump in this rifle when you are done shooting to maintain the seal and keep it lasts for years. The forearm has a very pronounced beavertail swelling where the hand grabs to pump the rifle. I meant the 392, as you indicated. With many less fly aways. Same power and accuracy, different valve design. Its probably a good idea if you cant call out of state. I will experiment with any you suggest. could this wreck or bend or cave in the barrel after time? I was just curious with well placed shots of course, what type of hunting capabilites could the 397 handle within the 10-20yard range. First, it handles a scope better and it sounds to me like you have your heart set on a scope. If no noise, you got away with it. Help me to make the right choice because compared with your knowledge of this product Im relatively clueless. Thanks for your quick response, I will probably purchase the 392. I found the effort to pump up the gun was very easy, even up to the max eight pumps. well yoday i went to sports authorty and they said they did not carry the benjamin 392 so then i went to the only other shop in hawaii that carries it but they dident have it either. I dont own a 397, so all my shooting is with.20 and .22 multi-pumps. How do I get your detailed instructions for removing the rear sight from my 397? is with a super light pellet. finally he had a cheap 4 power scope mounted, but i was thinking of upgrading to a bug buster or similar, higher powered, scope. Could i charge it from a portable air storage tank? But as I said earlier, you can get a scope/peep sight with a special inter-mount to use on this one. Im not sure, but I must have got a really good plunger seal, because the 1st pump feels like the fourth or fifth pump on my newer 392. I have an old Benjamin .177 caliber air rifle, which I believe is a Model 397. Reviewed in the United States on June 1, 2022. A 312 is virtually identical in power and accuracy to a 392. Well, first I had to find what a B272 was. Hold it on top of the barrel at that point. What were the pellets? Thanks also for recommending leaving a pump of air in these types of guns I have an older Crosman 1377 that I started doing that with only after reading about it on your blog. Ive taken several squirrels, and many rabbits. I bought mine yesterday morning and snuck it past my wife. I use the Crosman 64 Williams Peep sight. doesnt like any scope on these guns since it gets in the way of pumping. Crosman bought both companies years ago and the two rifles have slowly morphed together into essentially the same gun. Any suggestions? Too, what is the going rate to have the Texas Repairman bring these old guns back to working condition instead of me doing it? According to the Blue Book the 112 was made from 1938 to 1941. Whats your take on these Germans? I cant tell how far 900 degrees south (down?) Please try again. Yesturday, I sighted in (at 20 yards) using the basic crosman field pointed pellets from walmart, and the crosman destroyers. I think the JSBs will do best, but Kodiaks (yes Beeman Kodiaks are there any others?) I have a new powerful pellet gun and nowhere to safely or easily shoot it! Im confident that a shot to the head on rabbits with a .177 caliber pellet rifle will kill them. Too many problems. I like both the 397 and the Bug Buster 2 just not together. Not only does the gun shoot like new, he didnt mess up the vintage finish on a significant collectible while he did the work! or a long tube with a hole in it? The Webley or RWS 34 would probably have been too powerfull for the backyard. It is Spanish-made, but from what I hear, a cut above the rest. Over-pumping will not cause the seals to leak. BB, I ordered the Talon SS today with a Leapers 4 X 16 X 50 illuminated reticle scope plus all the accessories. Ill try today again maybe, and see what else I can find out. I want to shoot crows in my backyard. Ill keep an eye out for the Blue Book of Airguns 5th Edition. You cant do better than brass for a pneumatic barrel! I was appalled at the horrible accuracy of these pellets! I was looking at the RWS 48 and 350, but already owning three Gamos, I didnt want to spend another $500-600 when all was said and done (scope, mounts, etc.). Last nitght I put a little pellgun oil on the breech seal, and it cracked off like a .22. Sheridans come in two flavors, plain and shiney. Its like a flintlock rifle that takes longer to get ready, so the shooter takes extra care with the shot. Whatever pellet you choose has to be accurate. the rear sight has broken off. But like I said, I have dozens of tins, so I dont think that will happen. I'm struggling to find either model for sale new. Thats enough for crows, but too light for raccoons and foxes unless the shot is perfect. TThanks for the advice! All right reserved. I just received a new 392 from Pyramyd Air and am a very happy hunter! Were they discontinued in wood stock form? I found it at a local bi-mart and I spoke to a associate about it and he siad he used it on his old crosman. thanks:D. You already know what a wonderful airgun this is. The peep sight used to be a very simple affait to install. I was shooting my 392 a couple days back, and i decided to try holding the gun different ways to see how it affected accuracy. If the Talon is accurate and I could buy a small air compresor or something like that It sounds like the one I need. Most are British, though quite a few are Chinese. I was a bit hesitant when I read about the plastic trigger, but I am very confident that this trigger assembly will last a long time. In other words, what is the step-by-step to center the sighting from left to right? Those pellets with polymer tips are not as accurate as the pellets I keeps mentioning the JSB Exact domed and the Beeman Kodiak. You charge it to 3,000 psi from a dive cylinder. I am having a hard time picking up the iron sight against the hardwoods. Thats parallax. If so, no, it is not normal or good. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. Even if I cant find a good way to mount the scope Ill definately hang on to the gun. But its a fine airgun. Jeep pulled the plug on 22 392s so they could do the same for 23. Thank you for all of the great info contained in this Blog. I have shot several halfr-inch groups, but they are always special. The rear sight is fully adjustable for windage adjustment(allowing you to adjust the sight left and right). Either one I buy, Im going to want to put the Leapers 432 Bugbuster on it, since I hear its a pretty amazing scope for the bucks. But let me ask you what pellets you consider too light and too heavy for a 1000 fps spinger. Jay,Since I posted, I have figured out how the rear sights attached, removed them, and got the peep sight working perfectly! I assume this is normal since the gun is only a day old and seems to function fine but I just wanted to make sure. I waited for her to go out and then I went in the Back yard to check it out and sight it in. Most homes keep a can of 3-in-1 for lubricating the hinges when they squeak. bb,with a .22 what is the lowest velocity required for a humane kill with a head shot on a raccoon? It makes shooting the gun nearly impossible. Whether they will improve that much I dont know. As Crosman aficionados will immediately recognize, the 362 ships with a short, synthetic breech. Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:33 am Posts: 7 . I find this slightly awkward when working the pump handle and taking aim (just when I settle in with a good sight picture, the stock moves and I have to reacquire.) Any help is always greatly appreciated. Is this supposed to happen? Is it true ? Your observations deserve some follow-up. I sight in for 20 yards, then learn how much to hold under when the target is closer. The Webley Exocet is a spring gun, not a pump gun. For most people, that would be 15-25 yards. I think this website and forum is honestly the best place on the net to discuss airguns. I think using my Sierra is making me a better shot with my 397!! The screws and holes are already there. I think ill buy this first for plinking until i can force myself to save the money forthe benjamin 392. Crow mangums gave .65 with 5 shots. Post subject: Benjamin Crosman 397, 392, new and old versions? It is also good for not startling your animal target when you are in the field. The other two are spring guns that require a lot of shooting technique to use. Moreover, hardwood can be refinished easily at any time so it has a very long lifespan. I was shooting at 25 yards, but maybe that was too far for these pellets (and me!). I know its not a replacement for a real target gun, but Im curious the extent to which you can control the power reliably and repeatedly. Either caliber will work for you and there wont be enough difference to see. I plan to use the Weaver B-square scope base for the Benjamin blue streak and accushot 2 piece 1 weaver rings. In the future i will probably get the Crosman 64 peep sight and maybe the Crosman B272 4-piece Intermount and a scope. Currently I get about 1-1.5 groups at 20 yards with this set up using gamo hunters. If Im wrong, and the leading is beneficial to the brass barrel, please let me know. I think the rifle would be easier to pump if I could put my left hand about where the front of the scope is now. Am I doing something wrong? Do you know what weight pellet was used when they chronied the silver/blue streak .20 cal? A rifle that groups 3/8 at 35 yards with JSB domes will group about 3/4 with the JSB Predators (thats the name of the hollowpoint pellets we are talking about). But the rewards will be good indeed! After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. You know, this is too good a topic not to do a posting. Did you know there is an active discussion taking place on the current blog. I had never seen or heard of a Benjamin Sheridan until a couple of months ago. Pyramids manual on the 392, which you directed me to, apparently added that info to the online manual and it wasnt well proof read because here is how the last sentence of the lateral directions reads: To make the pellet hit further right on the target, loosen the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the right side of the sight (Fig. Bolt action. I found one maker (H & N) on this site who does make a 22 caliber round ball, but it is finished with a black graphite coating. my benjamin 392 seems to hold air but wont fire. Maybe you can find a bargain there? Yes, that is entirely normal. Cool idea huh??? Affiliate Links are prominently displayed under the heading BUY FROM. Yes your groups will improve. Im definetly going for the IZH-61, its cheaper, more accurate(right? George PenaGeorge is a Texan who fixes American pneumatics. its http://www.myspace.com/airgunsniperthanks bb. How to make a great gun even better? There may be exceptions in a few stores, but the last time I looked in three different states, .177 was all I could find! I dont mind paying an extra 50-100 bucks or so for much better quality. Do I tighten the left screw and loosen the right screw or vice versa? I didnt think there would be much difference between the 0.177 pellet from the Diana and the 0.218 pellet from the Benji, but I was wrong. A single-shot action gun gives you control over the type of pellet you gonna shoot. The mount does fit the 397 and it does bring the scope to a comfortable distance from the eye, but it puts the mounting rail right over the bolt which makes loading very timeconsuming. I have number 142 of the 500 that are going to be made. It was missing the trigger and a gentleman in INdiana replaced it. I know this rifle could do better, but I need a better pellet, and maybe a closer target! Loosely holding the slope got me 3 and 14/16 inches as my best (average of 4 and 2/16 inches). The tell II shoots, but seems a little underpowered, probably from 70+ years of use. Then I think there is no choice. Benjamin purchased Sheridan in 1972 and continued producing the Model C until 1992. [url]http://www.mac1airgun.com/steriodags.html[/url]. You have to get the 392! Just shoot the gun with a pellet. This is why i prepare for the worst. As long as you lubricated the pum head with Pellgunoil, you can ignore any sounds. The Benjamin 392 matched all of the the criteria I had for the prefect rifle, except for one. No airgun is better (in this price range at least)!!!! The rifle has to be partially disassembled and the valve stem has to be opened by force. Because the intermounts place the scope forward, my suggestion would be long scope for this gun or one with plenty of eye relief, perhaps a pistol scope. I dont recommend scoping a 372 or 392. Take a look at the Webley Exocet. If you are not a fan of plastic guns then this is definitely a great choice for you. Thanks. That isnt easy, but the BAM B26 is one solution, and the B40 is an even better one. I think Ill use the screws already included on the 392 to hold the peep sight on. bb,i just recieved an older blue streak from my grandfather. and i figured out that the pshh noise is coming from this little hole it says air hole do not oil. Crosman BENJAMIN 392 btn_prev btn_next. The forend/ pump handle is straight, not a short corn cobb or beavertailed, and extends to within about 2 of the muzzle end, the grain is continuous from butt end to muzzle. The culprit is the intermounts. I had a little bit of a problem when i mounted it on the shadow 1000. 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